Re: Just Bought A Yoder Loaded Wichita
Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:21 pm
What is the name of the Raichlen show? Do you have an episode number reference?
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I'm still on the fence about selling. I was looking at Shirley Fabrication and Aaron Franklin smokers for a possible replacement, but for now I'm still trying to determine if the Yoder design is capable of Franklin-like results when used properly. I've commented before about the fact that modifying the cooker may completely alter it's cooking behavior, and I've wondered if my final product is somehow lower in quality than what the stock smoker without modifications delivers.Darkfix wrote:@Slamkeys:
Thanks...
Also wonder, are you happy with the Yoder after your mods?
Can you use it as intended, throw in couple of splits, close door etc...
Will you keep it, or sell it?
ET 735 for Project Smoke Texas Clod HDfreddie987 wrote:What is the name of the Raichlen show? Do you have an episode number reference?
Darkfix wrote:Is it really this bad with the Wichita so you can call it a design fault ?
I live in Europe, and over here the Wichita cost around €3600 + €400 in shipping = €4000...
So they are very expensive and Yoder is more or less the only proper pit you can get hold of.
And with that money you for sure don't want any crap...
Else the build quality look superb...
Kingman is €4950 and then €500 in shipping...
What other brands are there that are good/top of the line ?
Is there anyone else that tried Slamkeys mod, and it that is enough to get it working as it should?!
The problem with the Yoder design is having the smoke stack mounted at the top. When you remove the heat management plate the heat can travel straight up to the top of the cooker and out, which is OK if you put food on the top grate, but meat on the bottom grate will not get as much heat, smoke, or air flow. I think the heat management plate does help even the temperatures if you can manage to keep your fires burning clean, but it also moves the air flow below the meat, and that probably isn't ideal either. When you leave it out, the firebox end of the cooker gets extremely hot, so I have to put all my meat on the opposite end for low and slow or it will scorch. Even with the plate installed, it is so close to the meat on the firebox end it's still too hot over there for a long cook. If I could move the smokestack down to grate level I think I would cook on that end with the heat management plate removed. There is a mod some people use where you put a flexible vent pipe in the smokestack exit hole on the inside of the cooking chamber and then bend it down to the grate level, which simulates having the smokestack mounted at grate level. I still need to try that.Darkfix wrote:@Slamkeys:
* If you try/tried to remove the heat plate:
I can understand that you got better air flow, but did it work better with modded/non modded door?
AAron for example don't use it, and is it better/worse to have it installed in the Wichita?
Pro/Con?
* You wrote that you wonder if you have to "good" airflow now, I guess that you just adjust dampers to solve that...?
In my world, if dampers are open fully, you should have more than 275f, more at +350f and then you can adjust dampers so you get correct temp/flow?!?!
If just wonder since both Lang don't answers my mail, and I did call Horizon and they promised to get my a shipping quote same day, and now it's almost a week.
I guess the shipping will cost $1000-2000....
I can get hold of Wichita for a good price, they have both "old" and "new" door so I can chose.
Also I'm not afraid to cut a bigger hole in the door if need..
* Do you think it's better to mod the New or Old door ????
LOL - very nice.freddie987 wrote:http://static.tvgcdn.net/feed/1/169/thumbs/11814169_1300x1733.jpg
Darkfix wrote:Is it just me, or did Yoder actually remove ALL Slamkeys posts at the YODER webforum.
The only caution I'd give involves wood usage. The bigger the pit (and firebox) the more wood you're going to consume. If you have easy access to cheap firewood or you only cook once in a blue moon it shouldn't be an issue. It makes sense when you're cooking 8 briskets at a time, but if you're only cooking for the family you might be surprised how much wood you need with the larger cookers.Darkfix wrote:If I get a Yoder, then I decided for a Kingman.
Darkfix wrote:@Slamkeys:
* If you try/tried to remove the heat plate:
I can understand that you got better air flow, but did it work better with modded/non modded door?
AAron for example don't use it, and is it better/worse to have it installed in the Wichita?
Pro/Con?
* You wrote that you wonder if you have to "good" airflow now, I guess that you just adjust dampers to solve that...?
In my world, if dampers are open fully, you should have more than 275f, more at +350f and then you can adjust dampers so you get correct temp/flow?!?!
If just wonder since both Lang don't answers my mail, and I did call Horizon and they promised to get my a shipping quote same day, and now it's almost a week.
I guess the shipping will cost $1000-2000....
I can get hold of Wichita for a good price, they have both "old" and "new" door so I can chose.
Also I'm not afraid to cut a bigger hole in the door if need..
* Do you think it's better to mod the New or Old door ????